tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3499957141699011933.post1966942797600168189..comments2024-03-10T10:36:09.923+00:00Comments on Gem of The Ocean: Why I Have no Truck with "Centering Prayer"gemoftheoceanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05521207668262592414noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3499957141699011933.post-13046932393527670162009-10-31T04:27:28.573+00:002009-10-31T04:27:28.573+00:00Jean, it's only music from the devil if you pl...Jean, it's only music from the devil if you play it backwords.gemoftheoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05521207668262592414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3499957141699011933.post-82615882172849458372009-02-25T16:09:00.000+00:002009-02-25T16:09:00.000+00:00I am glad you spoke out about centering prayer/pra...I am glad you spoke out about centering prayer/praying with the ocean. I feel the same. <BR/>I looked at your profile and was concerned on your favorite music style i.e. beatles, classic rock .. . kindly look this up, it is music from the devil. I use to listen to this years ago until I understood where its origin came from.<BR/><BR/>Jean<BR/>Nova ScotiaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3499957141699011933.post-20737886105883953272008-08-05T01:44:00.000+01:002008-08-05T01:44:00.000+01:00Joe - Christian meditation is centered on God. Ce...Joe - Christian meditation is centered on God. Centering prayer is based on Eastern philosophies and requires going inward to seek your answers. <BR/><BR/>Centering prayer as it is taught by the "New Age Catholics" (lots and lots of sisters!) is oppossed to the way of Catholic prayer (so says the Holy See)Adriennehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01562944653624224107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3499957141699011933.post-41700966830910572742008-08-04T20:38:00.000+01:002008-08-04T20:38:00.000+01:00I have too much centering prayer in my life, cente...I have too much centering prayer in my life, centered around my self, and I find myself in the confessional because of it ;}<BR/><BR/>Totally agree, Karen *holding up lit cigarette lighter* I spent too much time in the charismatic realm to be comfortable with things that run tangentially or are opposed to tradition.swissmisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11091563100968996825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3499957141699011933.post-26428041934276630572008-08-04T17:04:00.000+01:002008-08-04T17:04:00.000+01:00How is "centring prayer" related to the three meth...How is "centring prayer" related to the three methods of prayer of St Ignatius Loyola's <I>Spiritual Exercises</I>? Perhaps particularly the third method?<BR/><BR/>The point of course being that, as described in the <I>Spiritual Exercises</I>, these methods of prayer retain a strong connection to traditional, Catholic prayers, Scriptural or doctrinal formulations.<BR/><BR/>I make this observation without great experience or knowledge of "centring prayer" but suspecting that the psychological insights of the the <I>Spiritual Exercises</I> might have something to offer by way of purification ...Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09339499088443959192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3499957141699011933.post-36227923779814280882008-08-04T06:21:00.000+01:002008-08-04T06:21:00.000+01:00Oh - it's sitting on my shelf. I devoted many year...Oh - it's sitting on my shelf. I devoted many years to studying this crap. While I was away from the church we attended Unity. That didn't last long but it made it very easy for me to see it creeping into the church. Now it no longer creeps - it's a full gallop.<BR/><BR/>We have so many ladies at our church that are into the likes of Joyce Meyer and the rest of the Word/Faith crack pots. And please don't get me started on The Secret or Oprah's new favorite Eckhart Tolle. Ugh!!!!Adriennehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01562944653624224107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3499957141699011933.post-40279908121273731492008-08-03T06:54:00.000+01:002008-08-03T06:54:00.000+01:00Adrienne, good idea. There's so much New Age stu...Adrienne, good idea. There's so much New Age stuff around, and some of it masquerading as "Catholic." <BR/><BR/>I don't know if you've run across it, but Fr. Mitch Pacwa (he's a *good* Jezzie) had a book out about the "New Age" stuff some years back. AFAIK it's still in print, but shouldn't be too hard to find a copy. I've also seen the enneagram pitched in far to many places.gemoftheoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05521207668262592414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3499957141699011933.post-21187910827935747492008-08-03T05:30:00.000+01:002008-08-03T05:30:00.000+01:00Centering prayer is exactly what you say it is - c...Centering prayer is exactly what you say it is - centered on US. It comes up when I do my lectures on New Age influences in the Church. <BR/><BR/>I think I'll do a series on New Age in the Church when I finally wind up the 12 Steps.....Adriennehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01562944653624224107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3499957141699011933.post-65464292620333881682008-08-03T05:24:00.000+01:002008-08-03T05:24:00.000+01:00Thanks you guys.Thanks you guys.gemoftheoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05521207668262592414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3499957141699011933.post-50887388625074689172008-08-03T05:17:00.000+01:002008-08-03T05:17:00.000+01:00Great post Karen.Great post Karen.Fr. Erik Richtsteighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16585104084132192522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3499957141699011933.post-8926707807952231042008-08-03T03:26:00.000+01:002008-08-03T03:26:00.000+01:00Exactly, totally agreed!Exactly, totally agreed!Joe of St. Thérèsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06506671882770822003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3499957141699011933.post-14156815279409256472008-08-03T00:37:00.000+01:002008-08-03T00:37:00.000+01:00And yet more thanks - the article was extremely il...And yet more thanks - the article was extremely illuminating and exactly what I needed.madame evangelistahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15993391171000966131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3499957141699011933.post-2906488016862834042008-08-02T23:47:00.000+01:002008-08-02T23:47:00.000+01:00Many thanks for taking the time to answer - and fo...Many thanks for taking the time to answer - and for giving it space in a post all by itself, which was a bit unexpected! <BR/><BR/>Your last point was particularly interesting - it hadn't occurred to me that some might view centering prayer as a replacement for other forms of prayer. I'd imagined it was something people did in addition to their other prayers.<BR/><BR/>Thanks again - am off to read the article on 'Catholic Answers' that you've kindly pointed out.madame evangelistahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15993391171000966131noreply@blogger.com